Anti-Papist Diarmaid MacCulloch gleefully predicts schism in Catholic Church

Diarmaid MacCulloch, Church historian and anti-Papist, has gleefully predicted schism in the Catholic Church due to ‘bad’ Pope John Paul II and ‘Bad’ Pope Benedict not listening to Europe’s Catholics. (This is Diarmaid MacCulloch’s ’1066 and all that’ childish version of contemporary Church history)

‘MacCulloch said in an interview that “there are also many conflicts” within Christianity, “and these are particularly serious in the Roman Catholic church, which seems on the verge of a very great split over the Vatican’s failure to listen to European Catholics.” He predicted that Catholicism faces a division over attempts by popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI to “rewrite the story” of the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council by portraying it as a “minor adjustment” in church governance, rather than as a “radical move to change the way authority is expressed.”

“Conflict in religion is inevitable and usually healthy — a religion without conflict is a religion that will die, and I see no sign of this with Christianity,” MacCulloch said. “But the stance of the popes has produced an angry reaction among those who want to see the council continue. No other church in history has ever made all its clergy celibate. It’s a peculiarity of the Western Latin church, and it looks increasingly unrealistic.”

The Vatican’s refusal to allow Roman Catholics to talk about married or female clergy was “not the reaction of a rational body,” MacCulloch said.’

Protect the Pope comment: No doubt the BBC will commission another anti-Papist TV series from Diarmaid MacCulloch based on this uniformed and childish account of the modern history of the Catholic Church.

Just one example of how dumb Diarmaid MacCulloch is, is his claim that ‘No other church in history has ever made all its clergy celibate’. Obviously this ‘informed’ commentator on the Catholic Church hasn’t heard of married permanent deacons. After all we’ve only been around nearly 50 years.

And to write that ‘popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI have tried to “rewrite the story” of the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council just shows Diarmaid MacCulloch to be a card carrying member of the ‘hermeneutic of discontinuity’ fraternity.

Apparently Diarmaid MacCulloch  was knighted in early 2012 for services to scholarship. The Queen should ask for it back. Horrible Histories has more credibility.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/catholic-schism-diarmaid-macculloh-silence-in-christian-history_n_1663231.html

 

14 comments to Anti-Papist Diarmaid MacCulloch gleefully predicts schism in Catholic Church

  • savvy

    “No other church in history has ever made all its clergy celibate. ”

    All Orthodox Bishops are celibate, so are monks and nuns. Everybody’s political and personal views cannot be made church teaching. Why should the church be made relevant to the West, but not to China, with more people or to some other culture?

  • The traditionalists seem to me to be the only regenerating part of the Church today. What people like MacCulloch never seem to understand is that the Church thinks in centuries, not years or even decades. Tearing something down is much easier than building it up, and once it is up it takes constant maintenance to keep it standing; the abuses perpetrated in the name of Vatican II by liberals is the equivilent of the maintenance team being made redundant and the building left to fall apart. Well, the team is back, but it’s going to take decades, if not centuries for them to fix the damage that the liberals have done to the Church over the past 50 years. So my answer to Diarmaid MacCulloch is, let the liberals go, then let the traditionalists get busy re-building the actual Church. Like the man said, if you build it, they will come.

  • Gurn

    This was the guy who referred to Christianity as a ‘personality cult’. The Catholic Church will not split but maybe instead a mass walkout of heretics which would be wonderful.

  • Karla

    While he moans and gripes, its the traditionalist Catholic Church that is growing and the liberal denominations that are fading. It is orthodoxy that is growing and the Christianity that wants to rewrite the Bible that is declining.

  • Karla

    Off topic- Catholicism in the South: Once a Strange Religion, Now Forging Ahead With Evangelical Fervor

    http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/catholicism-in-the-south-once-a-strange-religion-now-forging-ahead-with-eva/#ixzz20Im0ZrKC

    • ms catholic state

      I heard of that Karla. It is wonderful when Catholicism starts springing up, as if of its own accord, in surprising places. Especially in the West where the forecast for Catholisicm is dire. Maybe UK will be next to see a resurgence of Catholicism. It’s been a long time now since the Reformation. God Willing….and let’s keep praying.

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  • Mark Thorne

    I think the recent Invocation 2012 event finely demonstrated how the young in the Church are orienting themselves towards orthodoxy in the Church. You only have to look at the increasing numbers of youths who attend World Youth Day, even though Pope Benedict wasn’t considered in some quarters to have been a figure with whom the young could identify with very strongly. I think anyone who isn’t young enough to have been around while the Second Vatican Council was actually taking place (myself included) can probably appreciate it for what it was, viewed from an external position – certainly not a “radical move to change the way authority is expressed” (as the Tablet seem to believe is the case as well). None of the Constitutions that resulted from the Council allude at all to the magisterium being divided up, watered down or opened for for general debate. There’s certainly something of a “hangover” from the 1960s lingering with some folk!

  • Veritas

    From Diarmaid MacCulloch’s entry in Wilipedia:

    “Regarding the conflict between his homosexuality and the Church of England and his own retreat from orthodoxy he said:

    I was ordained Deacon. But, being a gay man, it was just impossible to proceed further, within the conditions of the Anglican set-up, because I was determined that I would make no bones about who I was; I was brought up to be truthful, and truth has always mattered to me. The Church couldn’t cope and so we parted company. It was a miserable experience.”

    The Church of England’s official (and rather bizarre) policy is that homosexual acts are ok for the laity but not ok for the clergy.

    At least Mr MacCulloch is honest enough not to try to live a double life. But a little knowledge about his own background can help others to understand his prejudices abouth the Catholic Church.

  • Veritas

    From Diarmaid MacCulloch’s entry in Wilipedia:

    “Regarding the conflict between his homosexuality and the Church of England and his own retreat from orthodoxy he said:

    I was ordained Deacon. But, being a gay man, it was just impossible to proceed further, within the conditions of the Anglican set-up, because I was determined that I would make no bones about who I was; I was brought up to be truthful, and truth has always mattered to me. The Church couldn’t cope and so we parted company. It was a miserable experience.”

    The Church of England’s official (and rather bizarre) policy is that homosexual acts are ok for the laity but not ok for the clergy.

    At least Mr MacCulloch is honest enough not to try to live a double life. But a little knowledge about his own background can help others to understand his prejudices about the Catholic Church.

  • fd

    Sky Tg24 reports that the president of the Italian Republic Giorgio Napolitano has been invited to Castel Gandolfo by the Pope tonight . Together they listened to a Betovheen concert played at Castel Gandolfo.
    Dear Reverend Nick, I want you to know that the President of the Italian Republic is a rare but inspiring example of open and tollerant atheist .
    Unlike the PM Monti,who is openly Catholic, the president of the Republic Napolitano is openly atheist. Nevertheless he is always the first to openly condemn the killing against Christians,he writes regulary to the Pope and always praises Pope Benedict and supports him. And the Pope also regularly answers to him. Everytime the Pope goes on a visit abroad, Mr Napolitano writes to him and whishes him a succesful visit. Mr Napolitano is even the first politician to remember the Christian heritage of Italy.
    He’s probably the best atheist friend of the Pope.

  • fd

    On Friday the 2nd the La Repubblica editorialist Piergiorgio Odifreddi,who hates the Pope and dislikes mr Napolitano, wrote on his blog on La Repubblica website that the Pope and Napolitano alike are ” weird men out of time” and their “parades” were also “out of time” He referred to the June the 2nd national parade in Rome,headed by Mr Napolitano and the Pope visit in Milan the same day. Odifreddi even had the gut to write on the La Repubblica website that the Duomo square in Milan was “half-empty” for the Pope, while even La Repubblica showed the photos(which I’ve posted on this website) of the Duomo square which was full to the brink with people and excitement for the Pope. And at the parade in Rome that day Mr Napolitano was also applauded. So, that was a double-shock for Odifreddi. But the hardest shock for him was undoubtedly the huge and formidable welcome the Pope was given in Milan.

  • Lionel (Paris)

    If the devil hates our Pope more than ever, it is in some ways a good news; that means that Pope Benedict XVI is on right way…
    I trust him better than ever!

  • michael

    With McCullough is a classic example of ‘the wish being parent to the thought’. A former member of the Church of Scotland, McCullough is a clear case of the fact that you can take the man out of Calvinism but not Calvinism out of the man. Sadly his academic education, which one would have hoped would have led him to embrace objectivity and disinterestedness, has not impinged on his personal views. He remains a sectarian bigot through and through. How he can hold down an academic position at the same time beggers belief.

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