Archbishop Nichols calls Catholics to join political struggle against undemocratic imposition of gay marriage

In an interview with the BBC Archbishop Nichols has given his strongest criticisms of David Cameron’s plans to legalise ‘marriage’ between homosexual persons, calling on Catholics to join the political struggle against the undemocratic imposition of gay marriage:

‘During his interview, Archbishop Nichols said of the gay marriage plans: “There was no announcement in any party manifesto, no Green Paper, no statement in the Queen’s Speech. And yet here we are on the verge of primary legislation.

“From a democratic point-of-view, it’s a shambles. George Orwell would be proud of that manoeuvre, I think the process is shambolic.”

He claims during a “period of listening”, those who responded were “7-1 against same-sex marriage”.

Archbishop Nichols warned that the Government’s plans would create a “sham” version of marriage and urged all Catholics to join the political struggle against gay marriage.

During his Christmas homily the Archbishop briefly mentioned the government’s attempts to irrationally re-define marriage in the context of the need to be purified if the promise of the Incarnation celebrated at Christmas is to be realised:

‘Yet, as St Paul reminds us, if this promise is to be realised in its fullness, then we need to be purified. There are, he tells us, things that we have to give up as they do not lead directly to God. There are aspects of our lives that cannot be lifted up to heaven without that purification…

Sometimes sexual expression can be without the public bond of the faithfulness of marriage and its ordering to new life. Even governments mistakenly promote such patterns of sexual intimacy as objectively to be approved and even encouraged among the young.

This Christmas is then a time to make fresh resolves that what we bring to the crib may be more readily, through the Lord’s mercy, raised to heaven and become fittingly part of God’s good work.’

Gay activists and their supporters in the media were furious with Archbishop Nichols for speaking the truth about sham homosexual marriages during Christmas, even quoting Scripture against the archbishop. Ben Summerskill, homosexual chief executive of the gay lobbying group Stonewall said:

“We do think it’s very sad that an archbishop should sully the day of the birth of Jesus by making what seem to be such uncharitable observations about other people. Some of us are mindful of Luke 2:14, which reminds us that Christmas Day is a day of peace and goodwill to all men. Perhaps Archbishop Nichols should have spent a little more time in Bible study.”

Protect the Pope comment: We must offer sincere and genuine thanks to Archbishop Nichols for defending the truth about marriage in the face of predictable hostility from unchaste homosexuals and secular ideologues in the media.  It is very encouraging that we are entering 2013 with the prospect of strong leadership from the Archbishop of Westminster.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20840531

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/25/archbishop-attacks-david-camerons-same-sex-marriage-plans

http://beta.rcdow.org.uk/archbishop/news/archbishop-nichols-celebrates-midnight-mass-at-westminster-cathedral/

 

17 comments to Archbishop Nichols calls Catholics to join political struggle against undemocratic imposition of gay marriage

  • Pravin Thevathasan

    Ben Summerskill worries that this should not have been said on Christmas day!But it is a day of peace only to men of good will. As I looked at the crib, it really hit me that he who is not for the infant Jesus is against him. I looked for fences around the crib but there were none to sit on. Let us RIP the “Church of Nice.” We have tried that option for the last forty years which corresponds to our time in the wilderness.

  • Karla

    Good to hear Archbishop Nichols speak on this issue forcefully. It must be condemned fully and it has been

    High Court judge criticises same-sex marriage plan

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20842884

  • Daniel

    Well said Mr Thevathasan.

    I think if Mr Summerskill were himself to study the bible he would discover that it says not a word in support of same sex unions as well as much to oppose them. What irony that the Chief Executive of Stonewall should encourage the Archbishop of Westminster to study the Bible!

  • Michael Petek

    If two persons irrevocably give to and receive from each other the right to engage exclusively with each other in acts of bodily union which are the same in kind as those which could result in the conception of a child, then they marry. If not, then they do something other than marry. At once it becomes obvious that marriage can exist only between a man and a woman. The fact that a ComRes poll discloses that three in five respondents favour gay marriage is more than shocking. It suggests that three in five of the population know neither what marriage is nor how to marry. It can no longer be presumed without further proof that a man and a woman mean to transfer and receive the ius in corpus when they say that they take each other to be their lawful wedded husband/wife. Though these unions look like marriages, they are not, therefore what happens on the wedding night is fornication, not marital intercourse.

  • Glad as I am to see ++Vin speak out, he has made a startegic error in attacking the Government for having no mandate, for ignoring the proportions against the proposal in the consultation: this will make it much harder to object if all three parties include it in their manifesto at the next election.

    But I’d rather he made a mistake in defending the right course than not defending it at all.

  • Augustine

    1. Sheer hypocrisy from Ben Summerskill. Even in the extremely unlikely event that he would pick up a Bible, he has made it abundantly clear that he would reject any parts of the Bible that do suit his sinful lifestyle.

    2. What St Luke actually wrote in Greek was “Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace among men of goodwill.” (Luke 2:14).

    3. Mr Cameron and his chums have been very quiet about the cost of same sex “marriage”. A staff writer from Pinknews.co.uk reported on 20 September 2010 that Stonewall boss Ben Summerskill argued that the Lib Dem “equal marriage” plan could cost up to £5bn.

    Yes, you read that correctly – FIVE BILLION POUNDS.

    When there are cuts in the Government budget across the board, Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg want to spend FIVE BILLION POUNDS of taxpayers’ money on same sex “marriage”.

  • Lynda

    This is welcome news. Better late than never. The diocese needs to be consistent, and end the scandalous Soho Masses.

  • Dominic MacCarthy

    Good point, Pravin. In his third book of Jesus of Nazareth, Pope Benedict takes to task many translations of the “Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace to people of good will.” The Greek original in Luke’s Gospel apparently reads “to men of good pleasure” i.e. those who are pleasing to God.

    Pope Benedict goes on to show the parallel with the words of the heavenly voice at Jesus’ baptism in the Jordan: “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

    He then asks, who are those in whom the Father is well pleased? He answers his own question: Those who have conformed their lives to Christ, those in whom the Father sees the likeness of His Son.

    So the Gloria might well read: “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to those who have conformed themselves to Christ.” As you say, not to the theophobes and Christianophobes.

    Thanks once again, deacon Nick, for a good article. However….

    During his midnight homily at Westminster cathedral, however, the Archbishop didn’t mention “the government’s attempts to irrationally re-define marriage” at all.

    Granted, the BBC website announced: “The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales has used his Christmas Eve sermon to attack the government’s plans for gay marriage.”

    But if you read the whole homily, you see this is simply a BBC lie.

    The BBC deliberately conflated what the Archbishop said in a TV interview with the report on the Midnight Mass. Then having set the Abp up as “attacking gay marriage at Midnight Mass” they draft in Ben Summersgill to knock him down……

    Never underestimate the mendaciousness of the BBC. Do we know when the TV interview was actually recorded? Presumably not on Christmas Day, but a few days early…..

    The paragraph you quote from the homily: “Sometimes sexual expression can be without the public bond of the faithfulness of marriage and its ordering to new life. Even governments mistakenly promote such patterns of sexual intimacy as objectively to be approved and even encouraged among the young” looks to be more aimed at general promiscuity and wrongful sex education in schools – effectively grooming the young for premature sex, ensuring future clients for the multi-billion dollar contraception and abortion “industries”.

    Many of us would not want to hear about the “gay marriage” controversy on Christmas day. Indeed, the crib scene itself is a silent and powerful riposte and reproof to all who advocate same-sex unions.

  • Augustine

    Should read. Sheer hypocrisy from Ben Summerskill. Even in the extremely unlikely event that he would pick up a Bible, he has made it abundantly clear that he would reject any parts of the Bible that do not suit his sinful lifestyle.

    2. What St Luke actually wrote in Greek was “Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace among men of goodwill.” (Luke 2:14).

    3. Mr Cameron and his chums have been very quiet about the cost of same sex “marriage”. A staff writer from Pinknews.co.uk reported on 20 September 2010 that Stonewall boss Ben Summerskill argued that the Lib Dem “equal marriage” plan could cost up to £5bn.

    Yes, you read that correctly – FIVE BILLION POUNDS.

    When there are cuts in the Government budget across the board, Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg want to spend FIVE BILLION POUNDS of taxpayers’ money on same sex “marriage”.

  • Robin Leslie

    Yes this was much needed. This is really a crisis in and for middle-class Christianity which makes God into an object and human beings into ‘puppets of desire’. We must be free of ideology
    yet engage in the public domain. Perhaps Christianity is a constant and unremitting struggle against idolatry, the worship of a false god! (Nicholas Lash: A Theology for Pilgrims)
    We must though always seek the good in and for those who seem to hate us.
    This is clearly a turning point for the Church and 2013 will see more resolution as the Church
    takes its rightful place in the public domain and ends the privatisation of religion that was
    the major consequence of the Enlightenment and Reformation.

  • Rifleman 819

    Dear Deacon Nick,

    Why the sudden action by ++ Vincent? When several Catholic bishops and two Cardinals have beaten him to it?

    He displays reactorship, and not to my mind, leadership.

    But Pravin has it spot on……being “nice and Vicar of Dibley” is for an entirely different Ecclesial body.It did not get them very far , did it?

    But we now have the 1.5% of the Gay population allegedly now redefining the rules of society for the 95%+ of the rest of us.And even most of them don’t want it either.But so long as the Conservative party is happy with Mr Cameron to lose them 000′s of votes then I suppose all is well?
    We are now starting the classic Orwellian descent into thought crime and good people across all the social spectrum in the UK are likely to face trouble for resisting this.
    And on a linked subject -what is the future of the Soho Masses, then.
    Sermons can be tough alright -but actions speak louder than words.

  • amator Dei

    The wilderness can be a good place to be. Those who wish to know God (rather than the Catholic Church) have always sought out the wilderness.
    If the “Church of Nice” should die, does this mean promoting the Church of Nasty? Well we hardly need to: the victims of abuse already know all about it.

  • Karla

    Archbishop Nichols issues a Pastoral Letter asking Catholics to ‘forcefully’ make their views known on marriage

    http://areluctantsinner.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/archbishop-nichols-during-mass-for.html

  • Ioannes

    ‘Men (people) of good will’ is problematic because of its Pelagian overtones. The now superseded ICET version sidestepped the issue. The first translation approved by the E&W bishops in 1964 was “Glory be to God on high, and on earth peace to men who are God’s friends”.

  • Dominic McCarthy

    @ Augustine Re Luke 2:14 The angels’ song over the shepherds’ fields, Bethlehem, on Christmas night.

    The Greek is ¨δοξα εν υψιστοις θεω και επι της γης ειρηνη εν ανθροποις ευδοκιας
    transliterated ¨doxa en upsistois theo kai epi tes ges eirene en anthropois eudokias.”

    eudokia (genitive -s) = good will, pleasure, favour; desire, purpose, choice. according to the Nestle-Aland dictionary.

    Pope Benedict’s point was that the eudokia is God’s not man’s. Peace to men of God’s good will/pleasure/desire etc.

    The parallel is at the baptism of Jesus, where the voice comes from heaven saying:

    Su ei o uios mou o agapetos, en soi eudokesa =
    You are the son my the beloved, in you I am well pleased

    I would be inclined to bow to Benedict’s learning, rather than to take the more obvious reading: “men of good will.”

    • Augustine

      Dear Dominic,

      Thank you for your illuminating comments.

      I would like to clarify first that I wasn’t trying to argue against your explanation (and certainly not against Pope Benedict’s exegesis) – but rather against Ben Summerskill’s hypocrital misuse of Luke 2:14 to take a cheap pot at Archbishop Nichols.

      Summerskill talks of “peace and goodwill to ALL MEN” – but in reality he means “If you don’t let me have what I want, I will call you a homophobe”.

      The message of Jesus Christ begins with a call to “repent and believe the gospel” (Mark 1:15). I suspect that Mr Summerskill would not even claim to be a Christian – because that would imply the existance of objective moral norms summarised by the Ten Commandments.

      Secondly, my second comment of December 27, 2012 at 10:39am was meant to be a correction of the post I had made at 10.07am when I omitted the vital word “not”.

      I am sure that Pope Benedict’s interpretation of “eudokia” is correct. Obviously all beauty, truth and goodness come ultimately from Almighty God – the source of all grace.

      I am not a Biblical scholar. But according to Howard Marshall’s commentary on the Gospel of Luke, “eudokia” is likely to correspond to the Hebrew “rason” meaning the will or favour of God (as used in the Psalms). Similar phrases have apparently also been found at Qumran.

      So, according to Marshall, ‘the older translation “men of goodwill” , (already) unlikely on theological grounds with its suggestion of human merit, can be dropped from consideration.”

      And Pope Benedict points out that the recent translations of the Bible approved by both the German and the Italian Bishops’ Conferences reflect this understanding of “eudokia”.

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