Dissenting on homosexuality Fr Timothy Radcliffe OP is a keynote speaker at Dublin’s 2014 Divine Mercy Conference

Fr Timothy Radcliffe OP, well-known liberal and dissenter, has bizarrely been chosen to be one of the keynote speakers at Dublin’s 2014 International Conference on Divine Mercy. Fr Radcliffe openly dissents on the Church’s teaching on homosexuality and Holy Communion for the divorced and re-married. Fr Timothy Radcliffe OP frequently celebrated Mass for the gay dissent group the Soho Masses Pastoral Council. During the reign of Pope Benedict XVI Fr Timothy Radcliffe was stopped from speaking at the General Assembly of the Catholic development agencies. Fr Radcliffe is well known for his liberal positions on morality, including his public opposition to the Church’s teaching on homosexuality.

The Divine Mercy Conference website states:

Divine Mercy Conference 2014

The first International Conference of Divine Mercy was held in the R.D.S. over 23 years ago. We celebrate our 23rd conference 2014 in the knowledge that Sister Faustina is now Saint Faustina. The theme of the first conference was “Mercy Our Mission”. The theme and the speakers were the product of much prayer and discernment by a committee of men and women gathered together in Eucharistic adoration under the spiritual direction of Fr. Cathal Price.’

Fr Timothy Radcliffe OP will be speaking on both Saturday and Sunday.

A selection of Fr Radcliffe’s writings expressing dissent from the Church’s teaching:

Fr Radcliffe gave the following contribution to the Church of England ‘s review of homosexuality and gay marriage:

Fr Radcliffe OP expands the meaning of fertility to include gay sex

But not every marriage is fertile in this way. We must avoid having a mechanistic or simplistic understanding of fertility. Jesus speaks a fertile word: This is my body, given for you. He is God’s fertile word. And surely it is in the kind and healing words that we offer each other that
we all share in fertility of that most intimate moment. When Jesus met Peter on the shore after Easter, he offers him a word that renews their relationship. Three times he asks him; ‘Do you love me more than these others?’ He allows him to undo his threefold denial. Sexual fertility cannot be separated from the exchange of words that heal, that recreate and set free.

How does all of this bear on the question of gay sexuality? We cannot begin with the question of whether it is permitted or forbidden! We must ask what it means, and how far it is Eucharistic. Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual and non-violent. So in many ways, I would think that it can be expressive of Christ’s self-gift.

We can also see how it can be expressive of mutual fidelity, a covenantal relationship in which two people bind themselves to each other for ever. But the proposed legislation for ‘gay marriage’ imply that it is not understood to be inherently unitive, a becoming one flesh. [...]

And what about fertility? I have suggested that one should not stick to a crude, mechanistic understanding of fertility. Biological fertility is inseparable from the fertility of our mutual tenderness and compassion. And so that might seem to remove one objection to gay marriage. I am not entirely convinced, since it seems to me that our tradition is incarnational, the word becoming bodily flesh. And some heterosexual relationships may be accidentally infertile in this sense, but homosexual ones are intrinsically so.

Sexual ethics is about what our acts say. And I have the impression that we are not very sure of what gay sexual acts signify. Maybe we need to ask gay Christians who have been living in committed relationships for years. I suspect that sex will turn out to be rather unimportant.’

Fr Radcliffe on Holy Communion for Catholics who are divorced and re-married:

I would conclude with two profound hopes. That a way will be found to welcome divorced and remarried people back to communion. And, most important, that women will be given real authority and voice in the church. The pope expresses his desire that this may happen, but what concrete form can it take? He believes that the ordination of women to the ministerial priesthood is not possible, but decision-making in the church has become ever more closely linked to ordination in recent years. Can that bond be loosened? Let us hope that women may be ordained to the diaconate and so have a place in preaching at the Eucharist. What other ways can authority be shared?’

Protect the Pope comment: It is frankly ridiculous seeing a photograph of Fr Timothy Radclife OP on the home page of Dublin’s 2014 Divine Mercy Conference alongside photographs of St Faustina, Blessed John Paul II and Blessed Fr Sopoko. How could the organising committee of men and women who prayed and discerned who to invite as speakers choose a liberal priest well-known for his dissent from the Church’s teaching? Their decision is incredible.

http://divinemercyconference.com/

 

61 comments to Dissenting on homosexuality Fr Timothy Radcliffe OP is a keynote speaker at Dublin’s 2014 Divine Mercy Conference

  • conrad noll

    Why do you find this choice so “frankly ridiculous”?

    “How could the organising committee of men and women who prayed and discerned who to invite as speakers choose a liberal priest well-known for his dissent from the Church’s teaching? Their decision is incredible”.

    Perhaps they are following a path they believe reflects the example of Pope Francis? What is so ridiculous about that Deacon Nick? What is the title of this blog again?

    • Richie

      Conrad Noll,

      It makes no sense to say that the organizers of the Divine Mercy conference would be following the pope’s example here, who once said that gay marriage was a “machination of the Father of lies” and a “destructive pretension against the plan of God”.

    • Everybody who believes in Gods truth needs to ring the organisers of Divine Mercy conference and ask for his removal, I for one will be telling them that I will boycott the conference.

  • Rifleman819

    Deacon Nick,
    .
    Bizarre…..how can a leading member of the Church’s own theological elite- the Dominicans’ of all Orders- be classified now as a dissenter….to know better than the Church…..and have the chutzpah to give keynote addresses?

    Bet he’s a good mate of John Wijngaards who knows Tina and other members of this coterie.

    What is there to do?

  • Rifleman819

    Conrad Noll,
    Err ….because because they follow a path that departs from the teaching of the Church……as Deacon Nick points out.

    And the Holy Father is also bound by the discipline of the Church just as much as the most junior seminarian.

    It ain’t a free for all.

  • Kinga Gray - Grzeczynska LLB

    St Faustina, the Apostle and Secretary of The Divine Mercy may take this following stance:

    To hear what Fr Radcliffe has to say at the conference
    To let the Lord Himself judge him according to his actions and words
    To remind the faithful – that there is no greater attribute -than the Divine Mercy of God.

    Perhaps the Lord is putting Fr Radcliffe to ‘the test’.

    He will either pass or fail. Time will tell.

    Kinga Grzeczynska

  • Joseph Matthew

    The “gift” of Fr Radcliffe is to sound orthodox when he is clearly not. The analogy Fr Thwaites gave of this variant of modernism was of eating a delicious piece of cake with just a tiny dose of arsenic.

  • Pat

    Deacon Nick,

    I’ve been meaning to ask this for some time. Please could you post these three links to Pope St Pius X’s documents on Modernism ‘the synthesis of all heresies’ – perhaps as a permanent feature on the strapline at the top of the webpage? I firmly believe they are needed more than ever now. I think they are mandatory reading for everyone who uses this blog – those who fully accept Church teaching and especially those who don’t. I remember the case of the Modernist priest who read the Syllabus and realised that he held virtually every condemned position listed in it. It was a moment of grace for him and the start of his true conversion. He wrote about his story and it has been published in several publications (if I find it online, I’ll post it). We certainly are living in times of ‘diabolical disorientation’ to quote Sister Lucia of Fatima. These documents shine a clear light through the darkness and confusion surrounding us. I hope they will be of assistance to all concerned. I am currently in (temporary!) possession of a first-class relic of St Pius X, and I will pray the rosary tonight in front of it for you Deacon Nick, your family and all Protect the Pope bloggers and readers. God bless.

    SYLLABUS CONDEMNING THE ERRORS OF THE MODERNISTS http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10lamen.htm

    THE OATH AGAINST MODERNISM http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10moath.htm

    ON THE DOCTRINE OF THE MODERNISTS http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10pasce.htm

    • Deacon Nick Donnelly

      Thank you so much Pat for these links and most especially for your prays for the intercession of Pope St Pius X. May we all be protected under the mantle of Our Lady. Deacon Nick

  • Paul Commins

    He should reflect on what the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah signified.

  • Paul Commins

    It should also be mentioned that Anne,The Lay Apostle,has also spoken at this,in the past.

    • robbie

      Concerning Anne a lay apostle, it should be known that all of her writing have, within the last few months been given the official Imprimatur of the Catholic Church by His Excellency, Bishop Leo O Reilly, who has been closely monitoring that situation from the beginning. Regarding Fr Radcliffe, he is certainly a cause for concern. The conference will go ahead and he will be there. we must all pray.

  • BJC

    Fr. Timothy Radcliffe’s words are rambling dissembling nonsense. One thing I find curious though is this passage:

    “How does all of this bear on the question of gay sexuality? …how far it is Eucharistic. Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual and non-violent.”

    How would he know?

    St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, protect us from bad Bishops

    St. John Vianney, Patron Saint of of Priests, protect us from bad priests

    • Bob Hayes

      BJC – I suspect you have an idea of the answer to your question. In the ‘theological’ world of certain individuals ‘love = sex’. Therefore ‘having sex = loving’. The ludicrous paradigm resulting is: ‘God = love = sex: rearrange word order to suit agenda’. Celebrity priests – rather like celebrity chefs – are usually, like the rest of us, sinners. Unfortunately there is an idolatrous element in the Church that worships priests – Kueng, Flannery, Radcliffe ad nauseam.

      • BJC

        Indeed. You’d think he’d be more discrete but his ego seems so big these days maybe he doesn’t care anymore.

        The cult of the ‘celebrity priest’ is definitely with us, and boy do these characters lap it up. I’m beginning to think certain Catholics out there will build little effigies to these people and make sacrifices to them.

  • Why are you surprised? In so many ways, the Church in Ireland is de facto schismatic or heretical, if not de jure.

    Where were the outcries of the bishops after the passing of the abortion law? Where were the criticisms of the liturgical abuses at the Eucharistic Congress, not to mention the allowing of a protestant to speak at a Mass?

    Where have been the censures of the priests and bishops in Ireland concerning those many Catholic politicians who should be refused Communion and are still receiving, after voting for the abortion bill?

    Except for a very small remnant, the Church is Ireland is in serious danger and many leaders in sin.

    Paul Commins,

    I would defer from using private revelations not yet approved by Rome to make a point. We have enough true saints, doctrine and dogma to lean on regarding the Truth. Referring to private revelation does not help any argument and has no place in a discussion of apologetics and morality.

  • Bob Hayes

    One of the – in my view – agreeable aspects of ‘liberal’ outlooks is that contributors to proceedings often declare their interests. Will those espousing sexual relations (hetero- or homo-) for clergy tell us whether they are practising, desiring or abstaining? I really think honesty in this area would enlighten and enliven discussion.

  • Damask Rose

    “How does all of this bear on the question of gay sexuality? We cannot begin with the question of whether it is permitted or forbidden! We must ask what it means, and how far it is Eucharistic. Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual and non-violent. So in many ways, I would think that it can be expressive of Christ’s self-gift.”

    Horrible, horrible monk.

    “Their decision is incredible.”

    Not really. See, they’re equating the Divine Mercy with this new mercy, charity “thing”, where God shows the person mercy thus enabling them to live their immoral sexual life and not go to hell for it.

    After having read St Faustina’s Diary, they seemed to have missed out the bit where Jesus will forgive all repentant sinners, but they have to go through the Tribunal of Mercy, ie Confession, because if not, they will meet his Justice.

  • BRIAN GREGORY

    Fr. Timothy should be laicized, expelled from religious orders, and, refused to be able to preach publicly or privately.
    Dissenters will lead many astray and lead to their eternal damnation as well as their own.
    It is the lying secular media that has quoted Pope Francis’s comments greatly out of context. I have read them, just as I have read his condemnation of Birth Control, Abortion, Euthanasia etc., which, is
    the exact opposite to his remarks published in the media.

    Here’s a ‘rule of thumb’:
    if the liberal secular media claim something the Holy Father has said backs their AntiChrist agenda – don’t believe it.

    The Catholic Church cannot fall (St. Mtt:16.17-19) – anyone who claims it did obviously does not believe Our DIVINE SAVIOUR’s promise to be with her (St. Mtt:16.17-19), and, us forever(St. Mtt:28.17-20).

    If you have any trouble with remarks ‘supposedly’ made by Pope Francis – then read them in full – in context: not in the ‘chopped up’ parts some in the liberal & secular media come out with e.g. Pope Francis, when he was a Cardinal, encouraged members of the pro-life movement to accept being calumniated, imprisonment, even being killed (martyred)for the pro-life movement & for defending all human life from conception to natural death. This was in 2005.

  • Fred

    Deacon Nick, you are a brave fellow, keep up the good work!

  • Peter

    If Timothy Radcliffe is such a heretic why has the CDF never questioned him. Not once? It seems that too many people consider themselves better qualified than even the then Cardinal Ratzinger former head of the CDF.

    Pope Francis met with the father of liberation theology Gustavo Gutiérrez OP a few months ago, we have many great theologians in our church with different theologies, and in my opinion the church is better for it.
    peter

    • Fred

      Peter, what Deacon Nick is pointing out is that during the pontificate of Pope Benedict Father Radcliffe was at least twice removed as a speaker at catholic conferences by the Vatican.

      • peter

        Fred

        it is one thing to be asked not to speak at a conference, it is quite another to describe that person as a heretic. For clarity sake, Timothy Radcliffe has never been interviewed by Rome for his theological beliefs, he has never been investigated by the CDF. He is a Dominican priest of good standing. One may disagree with him – but if the CDF has no problem with him why should we?
        peter

    • BJC

      Peter

      “If Timothy Radcliffe is such a heretic why has the CDF never questioned him”

      Because he’s very good at pushing the envelope without getting caught. It’s the hallmark of the modernist/neo-modernist to work from the inside and be a termite in the nest, just ask Fr. George Tyrell. To be sure he might not be one of the worst ones, let’s say he’s a 1 or 2 on the modernist Richter scale but he’s part of the wrecking crew none the less. Personally, I prefer characters like Tina Beattie, Terence Weldon and Fr. Tony Flannery because at least you know where you stand with them. There’s not the endless mumbling and dissembling of people like Fr. Tim.

      Before you ask, it looks to me as if he’s heretical on these points of doctrine:

      - Homosexual acts
      - An all-male priesthood
      - Communion for the divorced and remarried
      - Humanae Vitae

      From memory you are heretical yourself on 3 out of 4 of these, and possibly all them. For those people who haven’t followed my exchanges with you before I think it only fair to tell them that you are a Catholic religious. Please, let’s not have a long exchange about this as we’ve done it to death on another occasion , and we are just going over the same old ground.

      St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, protect us form bad Bishops

      St. John Vianney, Patron Saint of Priests, protect us from bad priests

      • peter

        Please, let’s not have a long exchange about this as we’ve done it to death on another occasion , and we are just going over the same old ground.

        I agree!

        peter

      • Pat

        Peter seems to trundle out this reason quite often – i.e. if the CDF hasn’t specifically condemned the person’s views, then why should we? If the CDF started investigating and making pronouncements on everyone in the Church who is espousing heretical/heterodox views these days, there wouldn’t be enough hours in the day! It would have to take on 1000′s of staff! And look at the reaction on the rare occasions when it actually HAS condemned any writings/positions held by clergy/theologians. You NEVER get humble acceptance of the condemnation from the usual motley rent-a-mob of heretics and schismatics, who end up campaigning against the decision and stating that the CDF abused its position or didn’t follow due process, etc, etc.

        You seem to be hypocritical Peter. As BJC has pointed out, you apparently espouse views contrary to Catholic doctrine, and yet you hide behind the CDF and run to them as an example to be followed to the letter whenever one of your favourite theologians is criticised. Well, why don’t you follow the CDF to the letter and drop your erroneous views.

        As for Fr Timothy Radcliffe, he has publicly stated that he ‘doesn’t know’ whether the Church’s general teaching on sexual issues is right, he has publicly stated that he ‘doesn’t know’ if homosexuals must remain celibate, and he has publicly stated that he ‘doesn’t know’ if women can become priests. The Church has made its position quite clear on these unchangeable issues, and yet he ‘doesn’t know’. So where does that leave him? Why should he be lecturing anyone? Shouldn’t he stay at home and study the Catechism, and pray about it, until he does ‘know’? At least he would be able to speak with some authority then.

        • BJC

          Pat

          Hear, hear. Hear, hear.

          Very well put. The hypocrisy of “liberal Catholics” is astonishing, but I’m so used to it it’s just become normal.

        • Peter

          Pat
          I don’t run to the CDF for a defense – on the contrary. I am simply pointing out that many on this blog look to Rome for answers about orthodoxy. All I am stating is this and no more; Timothy Radcliffe was a senior catholic figure and if the CDF believed him to be heretical they would have said something. As it happens many theologians have been condemned by the old Holy Office, placed on the Index and eventually their theology has become mainstream.

          I really can’t see anything in Timothy Radcliffe’s theology that would declare him heretical. One may disagree with him, but his work is set within the normal theological dialogue of the church – and it has always been this way, ever since Peter disagreed with Paul and has continued right through to the 1950′s with the great theological movements that brought us the Council.

          To paraphrase Lonergan, our faith may be one but our theological expressions are many.

          peter

    • Jesus did not have different Theologies, that would be confusion and confusion comes from the devil. God is ordered and his teachings set in stone, they are called dogmas. Dogmas are not open to opinion and must be accepted by Catholics. If we are menu Catholics picking and choosing the ones we like, that means we protest against the ones we dont like making us protesters (protestant) When we protest against what God teaches we would be guilty of pride, when the creature has the audacity to contradict the creator.

  • Fred

    Peter, As the Vatican removed him from other speaking engagements I believe that speaks for itself. The CDF does not, cannot deal with every case. Sometimes we have to use our own minds and figure out the obvious.

    • peter

      Fred
      if you are saying the former Master of the Dominicans is a heretic and the CDF decided not to interview him – what does it say about the CDF under Cardinal Ratzinger? I think we agree that under Cardinal Ratzinger and John Paul 2 the CDF interviewed many theologians. Someone as senior as Timothy Radcliffe would have been interviewed if here was serious cause for concern.
      peter

  • Vatican document on Liberation Theology-one can meet someone and not agree with their position. Happens to me daily.

    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19840806_theology-liberation_en.html

  • Fred

    Peter, I say nothing more than what is in my posts, the content of which you are ignoring. His speaking engagements were canceled by the Vatican which as I said speaks for itself. One need not wait for the CDF to get out of bed in the morning. There are reasons that we have a catechism. The CDF had no objections to a catechism once given an imprimatur by Abp. Gerety. But later, much later the CDF ordered the imprimatur withdrawn. Laity who had acted on their own against the catechism in the meantime were vindicated, but they did not need the vindication. The CDF hardly analyzes every theologian in sight, given their very small staff it is not remotely possible for them to do that. My thanks to BJC for providing some insight into your background!

  • Peter, quoting Lonergan was a give away. Remember that theological dialogue must at some time submit to Holy Mother Church. St. Peter changed his mind about the Gentiles, the reason for the calling of the First Council were such discussions. But, never has a theologian departed from Church teaching and not been eventually censured for serious error.

    It may take awhile, but the concern of this forum is not primarily theological discussion, but the salvation of souls.

  • Nicolas Bellord

    I think we need to remember the limitations of the CDF – a small staff inundated with messages from all over the world and using yesterday’s technology to-morrow but some excellent people doing their best.

  • Katalina

    Do not even try to compare what this Dominican Dissenter has said with Peter and Paul PLEASE. And it is NOT just a matter of not agreeing with what he has said. The issue here is saying Homosexual acts are normal if not done in a violent way. Well much of their sex actions are violent but I won’t get into that. Too many have fallen into the relativist mindset that says there is NO absolute truth on anything no write or wrong. This is why Ireland is in a state of crisis. First it allows abortion and the clergy as usual says nothing, I do think the Francis and his own emphasis on Mercy means you can do what you want because God is all Mercy. He really should not have said Who AM I TO Judge because this has given the Conference the green light to bring in this Dominican Priest because God loves everybody and it does not matter what they do because God is merciful to all whether they repent or not.

  • Jeremy Young

    I think it’s oddly fascinating and frustrating to say the least.
    My mind is more delineated, I hope. The idea that something new and intriguing is brought forward in the ethos of theology regarding homosexual acts and what may or may not be a sexual attachment within that “relationship” is just perverse. The fact that it is also from the Dominican who was the lead of the Dominicans is painfully inigmatic of the Church’s battle in this age.
    Modernisms entry on the world stage, the dissolution of marriage, the blurring of heroes in popular culture , the Mass devolving to a tribal community exercise of self love; it’s all part of this eras misunderstandings and tearing at the heart of Christ. But in the end Christ has won. I only pray for my children and the Church’s children that they may not have to endure these fools from within AND without.
    Poor Fr Radcliffe.

  • Tom Kearney

    I must admit that I am inclined to agree with Maire Dean’s comments on December 21st that ” the Church in Ireland is de facto schismatic or heretical, if not de jure.” And yes, where were the outcries of the bishops after the passing of the abortion law and where have been the censures of the priests and bishops in Ireland concerning those many Catholic politicians who certainly should be refused Holy Communion but are still allowed to receive despite supporting the legalisation of this abomination here. All of these politicians, by the way, incurred this sanction of excommunication in the very act of casting their vote and neither Pope, bishop or priest was required to lift a finger or say a word to make it legal. But our clergy are needed now and it truly is a scandal and a tragedy that moral cowardice and lack of spiritual leadership appear to exist, at least for the most part, in our country at the present time. Let us pray for our clergy that the Lord will give them the courage to change and become more like the brave priests of times past in Ireland when they daily risked life and limb to preach the gospel of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

  • Tom Kearney

    I notice that part of the heading on this website contains a countdown on the number of months, days, hours etc.that have passed since Enda Keny introduced legalized abortion into Ireland and ” should have been excommunicated for it.” Please allow me to, factually, point out that Enda is, already, excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church for his labours and was, from the very first moment he began the process of introducing this abomination here.

    • Lynda

      That’s the truth. However, if such excommunications are not acknowledged by those in authority, and acted upon (as in the Receiving of the Blessed Sacrament being refused, and other sacraments) then the excommunication will not have the educational effect it ought to have for either the one excommunicated or the Faithful. Lord, may our bishops and priests repent and convert.

  • Sadly, the Church leaders in Dublin especially, (except at St. Kevin’s TLM where I heard one sermon which was a warning to us all about not supporting anti-life issues and about standing firm in these evil times), have been silent on this issue of excommunication or at least the danger one puts one soul in regarding abortion. The clergy are, therefore, allowing this scandal to get worse. I am convinced the politicians in the Dail no longer believe in their immortal souls, for if they did, they would be not be able to sleep at night for fear of God’s justice.

    Cannot one, just one bishop read the “Woe” words of Christ? Matthew 23:27–28
    27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 “So you, too, outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy”

    Sadly, even the outward show of righteousness is gone.

  • Tom Kearney

    Another thing which I simply cannot understand, as a Roman Catholic, is the deafening silence nowadays from the pulpit, and, I presume, the classroom also, with regard to the preaching or teaching of one particular doctrine of our faith … the existence of Hell ! What a dreadful dereliction of duty on the part of those whose care it is to teach and pass on the truths of our holy faith ! I certainly wouldn’t like to have that particular sin on my soul when facing the judgment seat of Christ and can only assume that a deep sense of misplaced and/or misguide compassion is one of the main reasons for this extremely sad and puzzling state of affairs. Still, it was really only about fifty years or so ago, that this mysterious silence descended upon us so, perhaps, the real answer may be found within that particular time period.

    • Deacon Nick Donnelly

      I couldn’t agree with you more Tom. I’ve just read Don Bosco’s meditations on the four last things in his book of devotions for boys. The meditation on hell is stunning. I wish I had been given this when I was a boy. These meditations put the whole of life into perspective. Deacon Nick

  • Would love to know where to get Don Boscos book on the four last things?

  • vinebranch

    “He will either pass or fail. Time will tell.”
    Sadly, it sounds from reading these posts, as though you have all appointed yourselves his judges.
    Divine Mercy? not evidenced here.

  • karen nolan

    Important note Just to inform you that Fr Cathal Price is no longer spirtual director or assoicated with the Divine Mercy Conference or Committee the current spirtual director is Fr M . Ross

  • Mary

    I was fortunate to hear Fr Timothy Radcliffe speak. I know little about him, but I was spiritually enhanced by his words and manner. I felt myself near to a man of God.

    For many years I have felt ashamed to be part of an organisation whose priests have been so disdainful of the word and ministry of Christ, that they appear to have made the abuse of children accord with their vows.

    After hearing Fr Timothy speak, I felt for the first time for a long time, proud to be a Catholic, proud that I had encountered a priest who is not afraid to speak out, is not going to protect the Church for the church’s sake, but is determined to bring to the laity the significance of the ministry of Christ and to persuade us to follow Christ in the way he wished us to do as reflected in the Gospels.

    You have good fortune to have Fr Timothy come to your conference. I consider myself blessed to have had the opportunity to hear him and I would go a long way to hear him talk again.

  • Talk is one thing, living the life of the true Gospel is another.

  • None of the opinions of Fr. Radcliffe quoted is really going beyond the Catholic teaching. The key statement: “That a way will be found to welcome divorced and remarried people back to communion” may simply mean: let’s hope that we will find out how to show those people the path to the reconciliation with the communion of the Church, that is to sexual abstinence’. He seems to lead the people in gay relationships to embrace that attitude, when he says: “I suspect that sex will turn out to be rather unimportant”.

    It may be beyond prudence, however, to celebrate the Eucharist for the gay people in Soho, when you know that many of them would come to communion without true conversion and after grave sins. That’s a trap we fall in the Church which is not a community of communities, as it used to be in the patristic era. No one was anonymous and those who had fallen into fornication were treated with much charity and mercy, which effected in sending them to the ‘ordo of penitents’ where they gradually opened their lives to the power of love of the Risen Lord. But in the Lord’s Day weekly celebration they were leaving the Eucharist with catechumens before the Eucharistic part (‘Ite missa est’).

    Fr. Radcliffe doesn’t call to priestly ordination of women either.

    So have mercy on him and let him speak about the Divine Mercy.

    • Deacon Nick Donnelly

      Thank you for your comment Fr Broszkowski, but you have completely ignored Fr Radcliffe’s submission to the Pilling Committee. I’d be interested in how you’d reconcile his submission with Church teaching. Deacon Nick

  • If we speak about doing something “compeletely” – I completely agree with you that cherishing sexual attraction to a person of the same sex is not an attitude that God wanted when He created us. It came with the consequences of the original sin and of the godlessness of God’s children. The Scripture reminds us about it in an explicit way (cf. Rm 1, 27-28). I am sure that Fr. Timothy Radcliffe knows it and accepts the authority of the Divine revelation. Discussion begins when we try to bring those people back to the Catholic communion of the children of God. Many of them have been convinced by the Accuser (Rev 12, 10) that the Catholic Church hates them. I had an opportunity to speak to some of them during on the occasion of the visit of Pope Benedict XVI to London in September 2010. What I believe about fr. Radcliffe is that he follows the example of fr. Yves Congar OP, made cardinal by John Paul II, and other Dominicans of the conciliar generation. He is actively looking for the ways to pull the protecting walls of the Church down so that the people outside, including the enemies, may see the beauty and love of the one who is the bride of the Risen Lord and their good Mother. If the only thing they know about the Church is that she condemns their feelings and the only thing they see is a protecting wall, she will never manage to be the sacrament of salvation for them (cf. Lumen Gentium 1). You may argue that fr. Radcliffe misleads them at times but, please, do not send him to the hell together with other sinners. This is the task of God and not of the Church (cf. Mt 10,28). The disciples wanted to purify the wheat, but the Lord ordered not to do it. Jesus said „let both grow together to the harvest” warning them that they „might pull out the wheat with the weeds” (Mt 13,29-30). The task of the Church is to find the ways to save sinners, to bring them to the mystery of Salvation and give them faith and trust in the Saviour. We need to teach the truth about human sexuality, but it can only be done when we love and not „bite and devour one another” (Ga 5,14-15, ISV). We need also to avoid „spiritual worldliness” which leads to – as Pope Francis has warned us – “narcissistic and authoritarian elitism”: “instead of evangelizing, one analyzes and classifies others, and instead of opening the door to grace, one exhausts his or her energies in inspecting and verifying. In neither case is one really concerned about Jesus Christ or others.” (Evangelii Gaudium, 94).

    • Deacon Nick Donnelly

      The task of the Church is to save sinners by proclaiming the revelation of God entrusted to her, so that sinners, which includes you and me, repent of our sin. In the Pilling Report Fr Radcliffe’s submission on homosexuality abandons the Church’s doctrine on sexual ethics by equating the goodness of heterosexual sexual love with the disordered sexual acts of individuals with the homosexual condition. Sinners cannot be saved by telling them that the sins they commit are good. Deacon Nick

  • Yes, you are right, the sinners cannot be called to conversion by telling them that their abominable sins are virtuous deeds. Yet, deep in their hearts they feel that something is wrong and that eventually may lead them to look for true happiness in Christ and be saved. The History of the Church is full of such people. On our part, next step is to find the ways to get to them with the Good News. Christ has died for them and has risen from the dead so that they may have life. It is our task rather than being policemen or grand inquisitors.

    Ps. In my previous post I missed after the words “the evangelisation in Soho” if you are able to edit it, please add the missing tag. Thanks.

  • Tom Kearney

    Fr Broszkowski,either you agree or disagree with the church’s teaching on homosexuality one hundred per cent. It is actually as simple as that and, clearly, it seems to me, your views on this matter are not fully in accord with the divine teachings of your church on this particular issue.

  • Mr. Kearney, you wrote about “your church” (i.e. my church). It seems to be a Protestant notion, since I do not have any church. I believe in (and belong to) “one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church” instituted by Christ by his blood shed on the cross. Through the Baptism I am a member of that Church. There is no division in her, as you can read in 1 Cor 3,4-17. NB. I am amazed how easily you have noticed my straying from the truth. You must have a special grace of the Spirit. Thank you for using this blog to correct me. I pray every day for the light of Christ to enlighten me, so I beg you also to pray form me so that I may embrace fully the divine teachings of Christ’s Church.

  • Keith

    Although I agree that such a high profile dissenter shouldn’t be given a platform to spread error. I will be attending the conference and walking out for Fr. Radcliffe’s address.

  • martin

    Pity about that Keith because you will not have been there to witness the fact that he did not in fact spread error.

  • Tom Kearney

    The very fact alone that Fr Radcliffe will be present at the Divine Mercy Conference as one of its chief representatives on this occasion will, sadly, inflict a lot of damage on this great apostolate given his well-known history of disobedience to church teaching. However, I think we may just about manage to restrain ourselves from giving him a round of applause should he not give voice to some of his erroneous views at the conference although , it would seem, that there are others out there who feel that he should be respected for his silence !

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